This is the first episode of the fifth year of the Anywhere But Here podcast and rather than have guests as has happened in the past (not through lack of trying, mind), Ant and Tom go back to a classic ABH format.
Trump is covered in short at the beginning, but instead of focusing on the negative, Ant goes for the positive side of things in that the Department of Justice have blocked Trump's bad on people going to America from seven African and Middle-Eastern countries.
Talk quickly diverges away from this however into areas such as film, books, music and games. There have been some quality bits of Twitter and Facebook interaction as well as some funny stories involving public breast-feeding and road rage.
In short, Ant and Tom said they'd get back into classic ABH territory, and they're delivering.
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